[TEDxSungaiSegget 2017] 与 Kilang Bateri 创办人的独家对话 C🔴NNECTing with Johan Ropi, the architect behind Kilang Bateri – the soul of JB!

[编辑 Editor 吕大人   英译 Translator 刘大人   摄影 Photographer 黄大人   部分照片官方提供/Official images by TEDxSS & Kilang Bateri]

在尚未接触 2017 年度的 TEDxSungaiSegget 前,大人对此活动其实并不陌生。第一届的Soundwave,第二届的 Hear it is,及今年的 C🔴nnect,每一届的分享主题其实皆旨在带出更深层的对话与反思,藉由主讲者短短18分钟的分享,更了解自己所生活的这个城市 – 新山。

这个自 2015 年起由一群新山自愿社区组织者所主导策划的活动,缘于一次其与依斯干达特区发展机构(IRDA)的负责人偶然提起后,双方一拍即合,新山有史以来第一届 TEDx 大会因而诞生。时光犹如咱们的母亲河般不慌不忙流动,转眼间第三届的分享将于2017年10月7日 (星期六) 上午10点至下午4点,於新山星级酒店 Amari Johor Bahru 掀开帷幕。作为第三届 TEDxSungaiSegget [C🔴nnect] 的官方媒体之一,大人有幸预先拜会本届数位分享者,非常感激主办单位贴心安排,秉持着抛砖引玉的想法,大人现就为看官们暖暖身,送上第一回合的专访: 享誉南马的聚合点  与 Kilang Bateri 创办人 Johan Arifin Bin Mohd Ropi 的独家对话!

Since 2015, TEDxSungaiSegget has provided a conversation platform that addresses a wide scope of fields and issues that would spark community connections and inspiring ideas that change perspectives. Moving on to the 3rd year, we believed that this platform has helped Johoreans rediscover their identities and can continue to expand and contribute valuable ideas to the Johor Bahru transformation process.

Beginning with Soundwav(r)e of the city – at the heart of everything from birds chirping to the conversations we have with friends, the inaugural theme and team from 2015 attempts to unearth the local voices to enhance the experience of Ideas Worth Spreading and foster connections between speakers, audience and community, by returning to the basics through the purest and most powerful form of communication – soundwave. TEDxSungaiSegget intends to be a source of the wave and community as the recipient to be aware (soundware) and receives it. This endeavour to rediscover our heritage and historical roots also led the team back to the very source where it all began – Sungai Segget. Fast forward to 2017, the C🔴nnection and conversation continue on 7 October 2017 (Saturday) at Amari Johor Bahru which was built next to (you guessed it) Sungai Segget.

As the official media partner for the 3rd TEDxSungaiSegget, we take pride in continuing where we left off from last year’s event to bring you a glimpse of the exciting programme for 2017, and to offer some interesting perspectives, and to hear it up close and personal from one of the main architects behind the “soul of JB”. Known as the man behind Kilang Bateri, a lifestyle mall that occupies a factory building; Johan Arifin Bin Mohd Ropi has been involved in rejuvenation projects such as Johor Bahru Transformation program and Iskandar Malaysia’s urban renewal programs since 2010. Currently the CEO of Institut Integriti Kepimpinan dan Latihan Semangat Dato’ Onn (IKLAS), a training unit that assists the government in scouting world-class Johor talents, let’s hear it from the man who is Foreveready to charge and change JB for the better…

再次呼吁!只限100名!第三届的 TEDxSungaiSegget 现已开始售票咯!只需登入www.tedxsungaisegget.com 购买就能享有限量早鸟票优惠。每位入场者仅需 RM57.40 (原票价为RM71.75) 即可现场聆听8位主讲者的无私精彩分享!
Limited to ONLY 100 attendees, tickets for the 3rd TEDxSungaiSegget is open for sale NOW! Priced at RM71.75 with only 20 early bird tickets (RM57.40) on a first-come-first-serve basis!

欲想了解更多有关 TEDxSungaiSegget 如何缘起与其定位,请延伸阅读:
To better understand the big idea and what inspires TEDxSungaiSegget past and present:

《大人独家》TED大会:眼观2016路,耳听8方 TEDxSungaiSegget – HEAR IT IS / here it is!

和新山老家的不解之缘
The homecoming to Johor Bahru

我是土生土长的 JB Boy,自工程系毕业后,2003年在首都步入了职场生涯,一年后到彼岸新加坡工作了4年,代表作乃是以设计团队一员的身份参与了杜拜的棕榈岛工程。2009年回到新山后,先后加入了市政厅 (Majlis Bandaraya Johor Bahru) 与依斯干达区域发展局 (Iskandar Regional Development Authority, 简称 IRDA) 为自己生活的城市献力。

As a “JB Boy” and an architect by training, I was educated through and through in Johor Bahru and graduated from Universiti Teknologi Malaysia (UTM) in Skudai. Having started my architectural practice in Kuala Lumpur and spending another 4 years in Singapore, I was fortunate to be involved in a few notable projects, in particular, the design team that delivered The Palm Jebel Ali in Dubai. It was not until 2009 that I decided to bring home my experience and expertise by joining the local town council (MBJB) and subsequently IRDA to serve the interest of my beloved hometown of JB, and bring back new life and character to the place we affectionately call “home”!

可否与我们分享你与 Kilang Bateri 之间的故事?
How did Kilang Bateri came about?

在许多城市规划、旅游景点与活动的层面上,新山的发展确实不比吉隆坡或新加坡有着鲜明的跃进,我当初就为此与朋友讨论,是否该有一些活动让更多年轻人参与,让柔佛的年轻族群能凝聚在一起,创建一个更友好、有创意的环境。有了点子后,我开始寻找适合的地点,心目中并没有太多局限,若能找到一处中型仓库也不错。在无心插柳的情况下发现了 Kilang Bateri 的前身,毫无悬念,就是它了。当时脑海中浮现以泰国著名的 Chatuchak Market、墨尔本的市集与新加坡的 Bugis 为创建灵感,除了发想把这里幻变为新山极富特色的观光景点外,同时也是一个能让年轻人办活动的舞台。

In my time with IRDA where I was tasked with the JB Transformation Programme, with notable achievements in the urban rehabilitation of Jalan Dhobi and Sungai Segget, JB city as a whole was still lacking in character and identity compared to Kuala Lumpur and Singapore, and in particular the lack of appeal to the youths to participate in the rejuvenation of the city.

In the excitement of getting Iskandar Malaysia as the next economic corridor in this region and JB starts to take its place in the tourism industry, we thought that there is not so much flavour of Johor Bahru being offered to the tourists. Even by addressing the gap and even with new attractions such as LEGOLAND® and Johor Premium Outlets which is now part of Johorean, there’s really nothing Johor about it. Inspired by Chatuchak Market in Bangkok, Queen Victoria Market in Melbourne or even Bugis Street in Singapore, we felt that it is timely for us to put something to come and treasure what JB is all about. So rather than we keep exploring the green field area and possibly facing the doughnut effect, why don’t we “recharge” the older part of the city where the souls are. So in a nutshell, Kilang Bateri is the “soul of Johor Bahru”!

最大的挑战是?
The biggest challenge in getting Kilang Bateri up and running?

首先你必须拥有计划与分析事情的能力,才能让整个创意点子好好实现。我们团队五个人虽各有专长,却也需要妥善管理自我情商与尊重每一个人的想法。整个概念从发想、寻址、规划改建到开业,只花了五周的时间,我很珍惜这一份天时地利人和的机遇,这同时也是有生以来发生在我身上最疯狂的一件事,我并不打算停止享受这种疯狂 (笑) 。

The biggest challenge to make it materialise within 5 weeks is managing egos (including mine) and respecting others. The 5 of us come from various backgrounds with different expertise but with a common love for Johor Bahru. Time and money factor were the main enemies to our whole idea, but at least we were willing to test the idea (even if it’s only at 30 to 40%) and there’s always room to contribute more ideas after that and make it work.

And for your information, the total time frame we did it, from the day we found the place, it only took us five weeks to make it open – the craziest thing I’ve ever done in my life so far, but that doesn’t mean I will stop here (LOL)!

2015年8月15日开业第一天,Kilang Bateri 就吸引了50位商家入驻,并在第三个月达到100%的出租率,第五个月打败了柔佛名牌城等著名景点而获选为新山最受青睐的场所。拥有184个单位的 Kilang Bateri, 至今仍保持着高达90%的出租率。一路走来,我们受到了许多关注,就连皇室、政府官员与海外人士亦都慕名而来了解这个神奇的地方。我们想要证明的是,想把一件事做好,并不需要做些离经叛道的举动或总是觉得别人思想太正面,自己办不到的负面想法。身为巫裔,我们更应该向人展现与证明我们能做好什么或带给社会更好的影响。

When we open our doors on 15 August 2015, we already have 50 tenants with us (and still with us for they understood the whole idea) and we managed to get 100% occupancy by the third month of our operations (with 84 on the waiting list). In the 5th month, we were voted #1 place to be visited in Johor Bahru by AirAsia, featured in AirAsia magazine as one of the destinations to visit in Johor and subsequently recognised as the creative hub for JB by the British Council. Right now (August 2017), we are still 90% full (hint hint!)

Being a small Indie company like us, there’s always a tendency to be bullied but that’s what our society is all about. Our message is clear: you can choose to deal with the giants which you may get bullied, or work with us who like to facilitate your business (but you choose to bully us back) but we are ok as we have something truly unique for Johor Bahru.

Kilang Bateri 如何协助年轻人?
How is it like being new “kids” on the block?

Kilang Bateri 是一个被社交媒体宣扬而长红的公众社群平台,它的操作模式并非类似一般的购物商场,背后由财团或发展商建构主导,我们的成长速度比大型商场快了3倍,同时也提供了一个能让年轻人发挥与发声的场所。我一向所秉持的想法即是:取之社会,用之社会。与其大声喝止别人让人只听你的,为何不提供一个场所让人完美展现点子呢?能好好地管理思维与内心并将点子发挥得当,譬如美食、艺术与运动向来就能把众人聚集在一起,让年轻人更有凝聚力是我们一直以来所想要提供给他们的平台。

Unlike the common malls in Johor who are mostly owned and operated by consortiums or developers, Kilang Bateri is the only one being built by the social media, and the netizens actually dictate what kind of components we should have. As a result, our growth rate is three times faster than the normal malls, that’s why we reached 100% occupancy within 3 months of operation. By listening to the market and offering the various components such as food, arts and sports which bring people together, we have successfully created a social community and economic platform, in particular, for the youths to explore and venture into entrepreneurship, as well as those who believe in volunteerism to make good for the city.

Kilang Bateri 如何与大型商场竞争?
How does it feel rubbing shoulders with the “big boys”?

大型商城对于独立品牌而言门槛太高,商品同质化也无法展现特色,许多商场的品牌布局与格局类似,同时在招赁租户时以知名品牌优先考虑,让许多新兴品牌的小商家望门兴叹。当我们一举将许多独立品牌纳入 Kilang Bateri 后,大型商场竟然开始愿意将租金与条件变得更有竞争力与谈判空间,这让我们觉得只要相信市场、聆听消费者,你也能让看似不可能的资本垄断现象也有需要面临改革的一刻。我们很欣慰的是,有几个从我们这儿出发的独立品牌开始备受瞩目,并被著名商场邀约开创分店。

When we first came into the industry, we were practically a newbie with no track record and the only people who trusted us are our circle of friends whom we have touched for the past 6 years.

Some of the big shots coming with big bucks are also looking for tenants and actually came to see our tenants and offered a lower rate. However, the way we look at it, Kilang Bateri was designed with startups in mind and what we are doing is actually an incubator. If they managed to get into more established malls, we would see it as a graduation and that’s the whole goal. Hopefully, they remember where they came from!

可否与我们分享你的至理名言?
Any final words of advice?

人生总会面对失败或问题,只要怀抱正面的态度来迎接失败,用豁然的勇气来应对挫折,我们无法更改已经发生的事实,唯有坚持开朗、勇于尝试、抛开惰性、好好地享受无悔人生才是王道!别太执着於过去,记得今日的美好,因为更好的明日即将迎向你而来!

For me, ideas must be tested, be it successful or fail, so I rather die to try than live not trying. It’s ok to have failures in life, but I prefer to think positive and continue to look for opportunities. Thanks to TEDxSungaiSegget, let’s get C🔴nnected and work together!

快问快答
Quick fire questions 

最喜欢的本地美食 / Favourite food in JB?
无庸置疑,我的首选是来自 Kilang Bateri 内 CupChai,源自中东国家的一种马来小吃“花生池“和食阁里的红豆冰;位于海边用香蕉叶包裹的Mawar马来炒米粉也是我的最爱!
It has to be Kacang pool at Cupchai in Kilang Bateri, and you must also try the ABC at the food court. Outside of Kilang Bateri, the mee hoon wrapped in daun pisang at Mawar.

最喜欢的本地好去处 / Favourite hangout place in JB (besides Kilang Bateri)? 
我特别享受沉浸在罗咪街、陈旭年街等老街一带的氛围,时刻唤起我内心的老新山人的情节!
I like the ambience at Jalan Dhoby and sometimes Jalan Tan Hiok Nee, because it always instilled the JB-ness in me!

最崇拜的建筑师或建筑物 / Favourite architects or architectural works? 
简约不简单,是我不变的定律,因此特别欣赏澳洲籍建筑师 Glenn Murcutt 及英国著名大师 John Pawson 的作品,其中印尼万隆市的市长 Ridwan Kamil 也是建筑师出身,设计风格特别符合东南亚国家的需求,所以也是我非常敬重的建筑师之一!
When it comes to minimalist, I adore the works of Glenn Murcutt (Australia), John Pawson (UK) and Ridwan Kamil (current Mayor of Bandung, Indonesia).

自认是建筑师还是生意人 / Do you see yourself still an architect or more of a businessman now?
我的子女也有同样的困惑,但毫无疑问我始终把建筑师摆在第一位!
My kids are so confused and at one point they asked me “who are you”? Till I die, I am always an architect!

如果不从事建筑师行业,你将会是 / If you were not an architect or doing Kilang Bateri, what would you have become?
(不假思索地回答) 律师!
Lawyer (laughter all around…)

如果能将时光倒流,你最希望 / And finally, what would you change if you could turn back time? 
保留丽都海滩,毕竟它是许多老新山人的回忆,更是我心目中独一无二的“迈亚密”!如果愿望成真,或许我们有望赋予它新的生命;不过事已至此我们始终需要往前看,与时并进。
I wish I could still have Pantai Lido. For me, it’s the only Miami in Malaysia and if I could keep Pantai Lido, I can possibly make JB more vibrant with it but it’s time to move on.

 

2017年度 TEDxSungaiSegget 主讲嘉宾
CONNECTing with the speakers at TEDxSungaiSegget 2017

大人对于这组年轻有活力的 TEDxSungaiSegget 团队背后想要传达的讯息及那份不求回报的使命感,深感认同。只要你我愿意,这个社会永远有个空间让彼此交流与进步。

The theme for TEDxSungaiSegget 2017 is C🔴nnect, where the curators believe that we’re not divided even the world made us seem so. By paying attention and taking the initiative, we will discover the magical fabric of our community and our society – the connection between each and every one of us.

C🔴nnection happens in many ways, both intentionally and unintentionally, so take this opportunity to spread this idea of C🔴nnectivity in a few areas we too believe that should strengthen to make JB a better place for everyone.

2017年度的 TEDxSunggaiSegget,演讲阵容同样强大,10月7日等着你一起来聆听。

With different speakers to inspire us come 7 October 2017 (Saturday, 10am – 4pm) @ Amari Johor Bahru, be sure to grab your tickets asap to enjoy Early Bird @ RM57.40 (Normal Admission @ RM71.75). Ticket can be purchased via http://bit.ly/2vkqOmC

Known as the man behind Kilang Bateri, a lifestyle mall that occupies a factory building; Johan has been involved in rejuvenation projects such as Johor Bahru Transformation program and Iskandar Malaysia’s urban renewal programs since 2010.

He is currently the CEO of Institut Integriti Kepimpinan dan Latihan Semangat Dato’ Onn (IKLAS), a training unit that assists the government in scouting world-class Johor talents.

Dr. Chua is a clinical psychologist, a researcher and the founder of Relate Malaysia – a community organisation which aims to destigmatize mental illness and engage in public education of mental health.

Relate Malaysia is committed to developing accessible and affordable treatments and promoting mental health community support for all Malaysians.

Rohith is a 23 year old young entrepreneur who founded Aarambam Music Academy, a new Fusion Music school in Johor Bahru with a recognition as Best Cultural Outreach Academy by Menteri Besar Johor Bahru. He strongly believes in a vision of leading a new learning era in the Indian Music Industry by nurturing the next generation of classical musicians and dancers at Aarambam Music Academy. Rohith started his journey in Sangeetham and Tabla at the age of 6 under the tutoring of renowned Sir Ajith Bhaskaran Dass (Sangeetham) & Dr Hariharan Subramaniam (Tabla).

His mission at Aarambam Music Academy is to provide the opportunity to learn music and dance, and build a Fusion Community through courses in Malay, Chinese and Indian music culture under one umbrella. In accordance with our 1Malaysia concept, the Academy aims to promote the exchange and learning of music culture within the community to unite them as one family.

Trained in architecture, Lisa now practices design independently. She has participated in various collaborative art and performance art projects in creating site-specific installations ranging from sites like rivers, a botanical garden to an urban paddy field.

Most recently, she co-curated with Nani Kahar of labDNA, the ASEAN bamboo installation art “Konstruk” as one of the Public Art initiatives by Khazanah Nasional at Puteri Harbour, Iskandar Puteri, Johor Darul Ta’zim.

A self-proclaimed enjoypreneur, Jacqueline‘s passion is driven by pursuing business ventures. After having given up her career in Investment Banking, she focused full-time on causes that are important to her. Her involvement in craft started when she and her partner co-founded Tanoti Sdn Bhd in 2012 in a quest to ensure that songket weaving continues by giving gainful employment to skilled young ladies after funding for them had been discontinued.

Five years hence, and still operating largely from a modified car porch, this Kuching-based community of 20 strong artisans have done the industry and the country proud – having won international awards and showcased in prominent events worldwide.

Apart from Tanoti, Jacqueline‘s other business interest is in hospitality where she manages 3 hotel properties, all within Kuching, Sarawak. Her flagship project, Batik Boutique Hotel, is a TripAdvisor Hall of Fame inductee; in June 2017, it received its 7th consecutive Certificate of Excellence.

Navin is a self-taught maker who first became fascinated with electronics through electronic music instruments and how they functioned. Through the Biji-biji Initiative, he learned about manufacturing, technology, sustainability and art and the various ways they intertwine. Interested in the future and current global issues, he always has his ear to the ground on the recent rumblings.

 

总共5份入场券等待赢取,详情如下:
Here’s your chance to win 5 pairs of tickets to attend the TEDx event of the year:

 

[#大人爱分享] 一年一度的 TEDx SungaiSegget 即将於10月7日在 Amari Johor Bahru 登场,门票已入手?大人现就先送上其中一位重量级分享者的独家采访!欢迎来自 Kilang Bateri 的 Johan!…

Posted by MAGistrate 杂志大人 on 20hb September 2017

 

 

 

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